Have you seen this re Ukraine? I have found this group of veterans to be reliable as in truth-tellling and down-to-earth as in unbiased and supremely reasonable, based on personal and repeated experience. of war. Thisis their latest, a serious warning re Biden's war-mongering and militarism (as in the budget appropriations to our military:
"We at About Face: Veterans Against the War are alarmed by the news that President Biden will be sending an additional 3,000 U.S. troops to Germany, Poland, and Romania amid heightened tensions with Russia over Ukraine. In recent weeks, the U.S. has escalated tensions with Russia through its aggressive rhetoric, by sending over 180 tons of weapons into Ukraine, and by putting 8,500 troops on “heightened alert” to prepare for a possible deployment to Russia’s borders.
As the world has seen in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and elsewhere, there is nothing defensive about NATO’s actions. NATO’s very existence is to further U.S. imperialism around the world, leaving entire nations and peoples in total destruction while filling the pockets of war profiteers.
We vehemently reject the imposition of U.S. economic sanctions. Sanctions are a tool of war and create conditions that cause just as much death and destruction as bombs and bullets. Sanctions always disproportionately harm poor and working-class people and otherwise vulnerable communities. We are currently witnessing this in the U.S.-created humanitarian disaster in Afghanistan today. The World Health Organization has warned that up to 1 million Afghan children may die as a result of starvation and malnutrition. We have also seen the impact of past U.S. sanctions on Iraq where, according to some estimates, up to 1.5M Iraqis, primarily children, were killed as a direct result of these sanctions.
As veterans who participated in wars, invasions, and occupations initiated by the U.S. and supported by NATO, we categorically reject the clear escalation made by the U.S. in deploying personnel, funding, weapons, and other forms of military aid to Ukraine. We call on President Biden and his administration to proceed peacefully, diplomatically, and with respect to the sovereignty of other nations, as well as a respect for human life and dignity."
Re artists sucking up to authority: thanks. i still had the image in my mind of Shelley's rebelliousness, fighting for the Greek cause, dying in fact. Well, Shelley was a Romantic and perhasp i was too until your lifting the sheet about licking the boot. Thanks!!!!
The censorship thing seems like it misses the point in two ways. I do think that all else being equal, it would probably be better if a bunch of relatively affluent individuals didn't have a say in what people see. But that still isnt censorship. They have just as much of a right to not be associated with Rogan as Rogan has to spew whatever nonsense he seems to insist on. And here is the crux: Spotify is acting very clearly as his publisher. It's not anything like Facebook where where is some public square argument. They pay him extraordinary amounts of money to be the exclusive home of the pod. Why should Neil Young stay associate with Rogan's publisher if he does not wish to be? Why shouldn't Rogan's publisher bear some editorial responsibility?
Czeslaw Milosz said it best in his famous essay The Captive Mind
Have you seen this re Ukraine? I have found this group of veterans to be reliable as in truth-tellling and down-to-earth as in unbiased and supremely reasonable, based on personal and repeated experience. of war. Thisis their latest, a serious warning re Biden's war-mongering and militarism (as in the budget appropriations to our military:
"We at About Face: Veterans Against the War are alarmed by the news that President Biden will be sending an additional 3,000 U.S. troops to Germany, Poland, and Romania amid heightened tensions with Russia over Ukraine. In recent weeks, the U.S. has escalated tensions with Russia through its aggressive rhetoric, by sending over 180 tons of weapons into Ukraine, and by putting 8,500 troops on “heightened alert” to prepare for a possible deployment to Russia’s borders.
As the world has seen in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and elsewhere, there is nothing defensive about NATO’s actions. NATO’s very existence is to further U.S. imperialism around the world, leaving entire nations and peoples in total destruction while filling the pockets of war profiteers.
We vehemently reject the imposition of U.S. economic sanctions. Sanctions are a tool of war and create conditions that cause just as much death and destruction as bombs and bullets. Sanctions always disproportionately harm poor and working-class people and otherwise vulnerable communities. We are currently witnessing this in the U.S.-created humanitarian disaster in Afghanistan today. The World Health Organization has warned that up to 1 million Afghan children may die as a result of starvation and malnutrition. We have also seen the impact of past U.S. sanctions on Iraq where, according to some estimates, up to 1.5M Iraqis, primarily children, were killed as a direct result of these sanctions.
As veterans who participated in wars, invasions, and occupations initiated by the U.S. and supported by NATO, we categorically reject the clear escalation made by the U.S. in deploying personnel, funding, weapons, and other forms of military aid to Ukraine. We call on President Biden and his administration to proceed peacefully, diplomatically, and with respect to the sovereignty of other nations, as well as a respect for human life and dignity."
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Re artists sucking up to authority: thanks. i still had the image in my mind of Shelley's rebelliousness, fighting for the Greek cause, dying in fact. Well, Shelley was a Romantic and perhasp i was too until your lifting the sheet about licking the boot. Thanks!!!!
The censorship thing seems like it misses the point in two ways. I do think that all else being equal, it would probably be better if a bunch of relatively affluent individuals didn't have a say in what people see. But that still isnt censorship. They have just as much of a right to not be associated with Rogan as Rogan has to spew whatever nonsense he seems to insist on. And here is the crux: Spotify is acting very clearly as his publisher. It's not anything like Facebook where where is some public square argument. They pay him extraordinary amounts of money to be the exclusive home of the pod. Why should Neil Young stay associate with Rogan's publisher if he does not wish to be? Why shouldn't Rogan's publisher bear some editorial responsibility?